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Is Fr. Khoat V. T. a Valid Priest?

Is Fr. Khoat V. T. a Valid Priest?

(Fr. Khoat V. T., Archbishop Lefebvre and 'Sedevacantist' Bishops)

Actually, I propose to readers to find a correct answer to the three following questions:

  • Is Fr. Khoat V. T. a valid priest?
  • Is Fr. Khoat V. T. a valid bishop?
  • Are the 'sedevacantist' bishops consecrated by Bishop Thuc valid bishops?

In 1978, Fr. Khoat was "excommunicated" by the novus ordo bishop of Beaumont, Texas after he (Fr. Khoat) joined the Traditionalist Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) founded by the French Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1970. All the clergy of the Society were suspended from their public duties by the Vatican II in 1976. Archbishop Lefebvre, however, continued to travel and meet his followers and supporters in Europe and the Americas. On August 12, 1979, he came to Fr. Khoat’s Vietnamese community and blessed their church in Port Arthur.

This picture was taken when Abp. Marcel Lefebvre visited Fr. Khoat Van Tran's Vietnamese community in Port Arthur TX, August 1979 A.D., accompanied by SSPX priest Fr. Hector Bolduc.

The same picture can be seen in Fr. Cekada's video of Feb. 27, 2016 "Marcel Lefebvre: Sedevacantist" (See 8:03)

Here is the report about that event by The ANGELUS (SSPX periodical) which is more than convincing proof that Fr. Khoat recognized Archbishop Lefebvre as a valid bishop:

September 1979


On the afternoon of Sunday, August 12th, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, accompanied by Fr. Hector Bolduc, a seminarian, and a few parishioners from Queen of Angels in Dickinson, Texas, arrived in a small rented plane at the Beaumont–Port Arthur airport. Due to the Archbishop's delayed arrival in Houston, Father Bolduc had called ahead to insist that a single car meet the Archbishop at the airport. As the plane taxied to a halt, Father said he hoped they were waiting. Others looked out the windows at the crowds gathered along the fence. "I wonder what they're waiting for," someone remarked. Someone else noticed that a great number of cars in the vast parking lot had flags flying from their antennas. "Aren't those yellow and white ones Papal flags?" Archbishop Lefebvre smilingly began to wonder what sort of reception awaited him. As he descended from the plane, Vietnamese Father Peter Tran van Khoat advanced with several of his parishioners to greet His Grace. They led him to a waiting car, decked with American, Vietnamese and Papal flags. Since the car could not hold the entire party, others were ushed into a waiting police car. As the cars moved away, so did dozens of others, forming at last an impressive motorcade of about seventy-five vehicles, all adorned with flags. The police escort led the procession with flashing lights, blocking intersections and even the expressway for the long line of cars to move ahead unobstructed. As the Archbishop's car arrived in front of the Vietnamese Resurrection Church in Port Arthur, the crowd of parishioners gathered on the sidewalk and the lawn burst into thunderous applause. The elders of the community, dressed in their blue ceremonial robes, beat upon huge gongs. Reporters surrounded Archbishop Lefebvre as Father Khoat led him towards the buildings, when suddenly the deafening blast lasting several minutes from strings of hundreds of firecrackers put an end to all questions and conversation. His fatherly heart moved by this enthusiastic display of affection, the Archbishop stood smiling in the doorway for some time, greeting the Vietnamese parishioners and their families and blessing the little children.

The local diocese several years ago had sponsored the courageous flight of these Vietnamese from their native land. Originally the bishop had intended for them to be absorbed into various parishes. But he had not reckoned with their spirit of unity, and once in the United States, they preferred to continue to live together. Besides, the liturgical and other antics in their new Texas parishes disgusted them and left them feeling lost.

So under the guidance of Father Peter Khoat, the Vietnamese decided to form their own parish. They bought and refurbished a former Baptist Church in Port Arthur that can seat several hundred people. Furthermore, Father Khoat continued to offer only the traditional Catholic Mass. The affection of the local bishop for the immigrants he had sponsored diminished rather drastically. All federal aid to the refugees was being channeled through the diocese, and with the sort of "charity" we have become accustomed to in the Conciliar Church, the bishop cut off all funds and all other aid to the loyal parishioners of Father Khoat. Despite various hardships, this very industrious people found employment principally as fishermen, and quickly endeared themselves both to their employers and fellow citizens. This summer they learned with joy that Archbishop Lefebvre would respond to their invitation by coming to bless their church on August 12th.

After vesting in the sacristy, the Archbishop, assisted by Father Bolduc and Rev. Mr. Laudenschlager, proceeded to the front doors of the church to begin the ceremony. After a prayer, he went around the outer walls of the edifice blessing them with holy water. The clergy and people then entered the church and knelt before the altar during the singing of the Litany of the Saints. The blessing of the inner walls of the Church in the same manner followed.

The administration of the Sacrament of Confirmation to ninety-three children preceded Pontifical Mass, at which Archbishop Lefebvre preached in French (Father Bolduc translated into English and then Father Khoat into Vietnamese). At the end of the Mass, according to Vietnamese custom, the men of the community came forward to take an oath of fidelity to the Church before the altar in the presence of the Bishop. His Grace then distributed ornate scrolls to them in remembrance of the solemn occasion.

The intense Texas heat and the quick change from mid-winter weather in Argentina had left the Archbishop somewhat tired, but Father Khoat's devoted women parishioners promptly provided a remedy: a delicious meal of elegantly prepared Vietnamese dishes and cool drinks. Meanwhile, charmingly dressed little girls from the parish performed folk dances for his entertainment. Soon, however, His Grace had to leave to return to Queen of Angels, physically tired but refreshed and gratified by the boundless enthusiasm and the heartwarming reception given him by these devout Vietnamese Catholics. And certainly they will never forget the grace-filled visit to their flourishing parish of a true successor of the Apostles.

It is important to emphasize that Abp. Lefebvre visited Fr. Khoat three years later after a Freemasonic source published the list of Vatican II high-ranking clergy who - according to the source - were members of the Freemasonic lodges. In that list the name of Cardinal Achille Lienart - who ordained and consecrated Archbishop Lefebvre - was listed among other bishops. Here, in order to save readrers’ time, I only can say briefly that validity of the Holy Orders of both Bishops is unquestionable. More details about validity of the Holy Orders of Cardinal Achille Lienart and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre can be found in my article “Was Cardinal Achille Liénart a Freemason?”

The list, however, was not an obstacle at all, for Fr. Khoat joined the Society founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. By joining the SSPX Fr. Khoat recognized Archbishop Lefebvre as a valid Bishop. It was quite clear to everyone in the Traditionalist circles that Abp. Marcel Levebvre was a valid bishop.

In 1988, Fr. Khoat met with Cardinal Siri in the sacristy of a convent in Italy, after Siri had just finished celebrating the Novus Ordo “mass” for the sisters.

After that meeting Fr. Khoat began to preach the "Siri Thesis" according to which Cardinal Siri was a "hidden pope".

On January 23, 2019, answering my question concerning supposed Fr. Khoat’s episcopacy, a very famous Traditional priest - Rev. Anthony Cekada - wrote me the following:

"Fr. Khoat visited with me personally twice, once during the late 1980s at Oyster Bay Cove, New York, and a second time during the early 1990s in Cincinnati. The story he told me both times is that he and a layman searched for Cardinal Siri in Italy in order to speak with him. They finally met with the Cardinal in the sacristy of a convent, after Siri had just finished celebrating the Novus Ordo for the sisters…The story was ridiculous. A Cardinal, supposedly the “real pope,” meets a Vietnamese priest for the first time, talks with him, and immediately consecrates him a bishop and makes him a cardinal!...And no, Fr. Khoat did not show me any certificate - he just told me this…story, twice. While his accent was difficult to understand, I certainly understood enough both times to understand the main point of his story - that he was a secret bishop and cardinal."

According to the “Siri Thesis”, Cardinal Giuseppe Siri, from October 26, 1958 untill May 2, 1989, simultaneously fulfilled two mutually opposed offices, the "Archbishop" of the novus ordo diocese of Genova and the "hidden pope" Gregory XVII. Two years later after the death of that "hidden pope", at a secret "conclave" in 1991, his "successor", Gregory XVIII was elected.

Untill the middle of 2019 Fr. Khoat was a chief priest and self proclaimed bishop for a group of people who called themselves "True Catholics". These people say that they have a "hidden pope" Gregory XVIII, the successor of Gregory XVII (Siri).

When in June of 2019, Fr. Khoat published his book "Catholic Manifesto: A Trilogy", this group split into two factions.

One faction declared him an apostate and a heretic and excommunicated him from their "true church", and the other faction still recognizes him as their priest in good standing.

Nevertheless, despite the fact that the first faction excommunicated Fr. Khoat from their “church”, some positive information about him, for example, about his ordination, still is on one of their websites:

Ordination History of Fr. Peter Khoat Van Tran


"Reverend Father Tran,

Greetings. A Catholic friend of mine and I are wondering about your own ordination history. Can you please tell us which bishop(s) and the year they performed your ordination to the priesthood?"

-Gregory Lynne; Virginia


Deo gratias!

Hello Gregory Lynne,

I was ordained on May 5th, 1967 by Bishop Simon Hoa Nguyen in Tridentine rite. I was regularized in 1988 by Pope Gregory XVII in Rome.

May God bless you!


Feb. 7, 2015”

Based on this Fr. Khoat's public answer, his ordination is valid and cannot be questioned, and, therefore, he is a valid priest. However, as you can see, he does not call himself a bishop.

But did you know that Fr. Khoat Van Tran's ordination is traced back to Bishop Ngho Ding Thuc?

Ordination History of Bishop Simon Hoa Nguyen according to the catholic-hierarchy dot org website:

"Bishop Simon Hoa Nguyen Van Hien (born 23 Mar 1906, died 5 Sep 1973) Bishop of Da Lat.

21 Dec 1935 Age 29.7 Ordained Priest.

30 Nov 1955 Age 49.6 Ordained Bishop Titular Bishop of Sagalassus.

Principal Consecrator: Bishop Pierre Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc, Titular Bishop of Saesina."

Let me share with you a few quotations by Fr. Khoat's former PR-laymen about some Bishops whose Holy Orders are traced back to Bp. Ngho Dinh Thuc. These laymen claim, that Bishops Guerard des Lauriers, Adolfo Zamora Hernandez, Moises Carmona Rivera, consecrated by Bishop Pierre Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc, "do not possess valid holy orders".

According to these laymen, Bp. Robert McKenna, Bp. Mark Pivarunas, Bp. Donald Sanborn, Bp. Daniel Dolan, and other Bishops, do not possess valid Holy Orders because their Episcopal lineages are traced back to Bp. Ngo Dinh Thuc.

"Thuc admitted that he withheld his sacramental intention when conferring Sacred Orders.

Note: On 10 different occasions, i.e., 10 FAKE ceremonies!"

"A member of the Hierarchy related to two current members of the Papal Restoration Campaign Staff, that Our Holy Father, Pope Gregory XVIII, views so called, Thuc "consecrations" as at best doubtful. Which to keep it simple, in the mind of the Church means, they never occurred. Bp. Thuc with his wildcat attempted "consecrations" was acting on his own mandate (powered by the devil)."

"Catholics, therefore, must reject the validity of Bishop Thuc’s consecrations. And if we must reject Bishop Thuc’s consecrations, we of course must also reject all of the ordinations and consecrations emanating from the Thuc progeny, for the Thuc "bishops" cannot supply for what was originally wanting to the Sacrament of Orders – one cannot give to others that which they do not possess themselves. So the lack of moral certitude by which Catholics must reject the validity of Bishop Thuc’s "Orders" he "conveyed", must also be applied to Bishop Thuc’s progeny."

As you can see, "hidden pope" propagators call all aforementioned Bishops laymen.

If, according to the "argument" proposed by these propagators, all these Bishops are ordinary laymen - because their Consecrations traced back to Bishop Thuc - then the propagators must apply the same "argument" to Bishop Simon Hoa Nguyen who ordained Father Khoat.

In order to be faithful to their own teaching the propagators must say that Bp. Simon Hoa Nguyen was an ordinary layman, and consequently, Father Khoat's ordination was invalid, and therefore he is a layman as well. "Hidden pope" propagators must say the same words about Bishop Simon Hoa Nguyen and Fr. Khoat, which they say about the “sedevacantist” Bishops who received Holy Orders from Bishop Thuc:

"Catholics, therefore, must reject the validity of Bishop Thuc’s consecrations. And if we must reject Bishop Thuc’s consecrations, we of course must also reject all of the ordinations and consecrations emanating from the Thuc progeny, etc…"


The Church teaches about Intention and Holy Orders, that when a Bishop confers Holy Orders using valid Matter and Form, he must be presumed to have had a Sacramental Intention sufficient to confer the Sacrament – i.e., at least “to have intended to do what the Church does.”

Pope Leo XIII in his pronouncement on Anglican orders teaches as follows:

“The Church does not judge about the mind and intention in so far as it is something by its nature internal, but in so far as it is manifested externally she is bound to judge concerning it. When any one has rightly and seriously made use of due form and the matter requisite for effecting or conferring the Sacrament, he is considered by the very fact to do what the Church does. On this principle rests the doctrine that a Sacrament is truly conferred by the ministry of one who is a heretic or unbaptized provided the Catholic rite be employed” (Apostolic Letter Apostolicae Curae, September 13, 1896).

In all the cases of the Episcopal Consecrations conferred by Bishop Thuc - a true Catholic bishop, not an Anglican – it is widely known that he used valid Matter and Form during these Consecrations and, therefore, it is the firm Canonical basis to recognize these Consecrations as unquestionably valid. The Consecration certificates were issued by Bishop Thuc, and the evidence of the eyewitnesses were presented as well (see the article “Abp. Thuc: A Brief Defense” by Most. Rev. Daniel L. Dolan).

Therefore, based on Church Teaching we can say that the "argument" proposed by the "hidden pope" propagators about "invalidity" of the Holy Orders of the “sedevacantist” Bishops, whose Consecrations are traced back to Bishop Thuc, are based only on the erroneous opinions of the propagators, and, consequently, their "argument" should be rejected and ignored as totally false.

Going back to the question "Is Fr. Khoat V. T. a valid priest?" the answer will be "YES”, because Bishop Simon Hoa Nguyen Van Hien who ordained him was a valid Bishop.

Nevertheless, the answer to the question “Is Fr. Khoat V. T. a valid bishop?” will be “NO”, because Fr. Khoat did not show any certificate, which is absolutely required. Eyewitnesses at Episcopal Consecration are always required as well, but no one except Fr. Khoat himself can confirm the fact of the supposed consecration of which he allegedly speaks.

The answer to the question “Are the 'sedevacantist' bishops consecrated by Bishop Thuc valid bishops?" will be "YES", because Bishop Thuc was in his right mind and used valid Matter and Form during these Consecrations.

Fr. Valerii

Related links:

Abp. Thuc: A Brief Defense

Sacramental Intention and Masonic Bishops

Was Cardinal Achille Liénart a Freemason?

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